The Glee cast covered Fun.'s "We Are Young,"but not in the episode this pic is taken from.
I am no poet. Nor do I claim to have any insight into the minds and hearts of artists and their intentions. I’m just a girl, listening to a song, feeling slightly creeped out, parsing some pronouns and vainly searching for an explanation.
The other day I heard “We Are Young” by Fun. (intentional period), featuring Janelle Monae, and had a few questions. I submit to you the first verse and chorus:
Girl give me a second I,
I need to get my story straight
My friends are in the bathroom getting higher than the Empire State
My lover she’s waiting for me just across the bar
My seat’s been taken by some sunglasses asking bout a scar, and
I know I gave it to you months ago
I know you’re trying to forget
But between the drinks and subtle things
The holes in my apologies, you know
I’m trying hard to take it back
So if by the time the bar closes
And you feel like falling down
I’ll carry you home
Tonight
We are young
So let’s set the world on fire
We can burn brighter than the sun
(x2)
If you don’t have any questions after reading/hearing that, then either you’re goddamn omnipotent or the ambiguousness of the lyrics doesn’t niggle at your frontal lobe they way it does mine. Let’s take it line by line.
Girl give me a second I,
I need to get my story straight
Firstly, what story does he need to get straight? And to whom is he telling it? The next line tells me his friends are getting high in the bathroom. So, maybe he needs to get it straight for his parents, the cops, some other authority figure who’d punish him if they found out about any illegal substances? OK, I’m with you so far.
My lover she’s waiting for me just across the bar
My seat’s been taken by some sunglasses asking ’bout a scar
Sunglasses is probably symbolic of some high-as-a-kite dude, tryna get his mack on. The scar? I hope to hell it’s a symbolic scar and not an actual one. Otherwise, this is possibly alluding to domestic violence….? Symbolic! I’m going with symbolic.
I know I gave it to you months ago
I know you’re trying to forget
But between the drinks and subtle things
The holes in my apologies, you know
I’m trying hard to take it back
There they are–those pesky ambiguous objective pronouns. Two of them! What is “it”? Is it referring to the literal or symbolic scar? Is it referring to sex? A bad lay? Or is it something more nonconsensual?
Why does he have to apologize? Why holes? Why is she trying to forget? Does it take months to forget a bad lay? (It takes me approximately 30 seconds. Unless, y’know, I was really into him and expected a lot more….in which case, a full minute?) Why is this song allowing my mind to venture into brutal territory?
I’ve made up my mind. “It” is definitely a symbolic scar. He scarred her by taking on a crap date, during which they ate bad oysters that later made them sick for a full day–during finals week, no less!–and watched the movie Taken (or Hostel), completely ruining her summer plans to backpack across Europe for fear of being tortured, killed or sold into sex trafficking. Right??
Maybe I’m projecting. Maybe I’m just trying to explain some lyrics that don’t make complete sense to me in a way that doesn’t border on creepy.
Oh, yeah. There’s also the music video. Of a girl. Sitting in a bed. Cutting an apple. Enjoying it a bit too much? And shaking her head from side to side (symbolic “No”?) three times.
Make of it what you will. (The head shaking starts at 2:28.)
Many commenters of the video have posited that the video/song is about losing your innocence/virginity. That may be closer to the truth than anything I’ve said above.
I just want to know whether it was consensual or not. Then maybe I can start having Fun.
honestly, you are thinking WAY too hard about this, its a fun song and im pretty sure Glee and the producers/music producers wouldn’t allow the actors to sing a song that has underrlying meanings that undermine the morals and values of the show……just enjoy the song, everyone else is
Alyjim
i agree u are thinking way to hard about it and getting way to emotional about the whole “domestic violence” thing… shit happens. i think its about a guy who has hurt his gf and there falling apart but they dont want their friends to realize it hence the “ill carry u home tonight”
Maggie1379
I don’t think that’s the right video. It’s definetly not in the one that just came out.
http://marginallyinsane.com Jenny Rain
I don’t claim to know the intentions of the producers of Glee, but it’s entirely the intention of this blog to “think way too hard.” Someone has to do it. Otherwise, nobody would think about lyrics at all. I agree that the song is catchy. It’s the ambiguousness of the words that trouble me. I would call that ambiguousness problematic for a listener like me so I can’t enjoy it as much as I would like to.
http://marginallyinsane.com Jenny Rain
Like I said in my comment above, what you call “thinking too hard” is the intention of this blog. My intention is to point out problematic things and attitudes in media. I am not “way to [sic] emotional about the whole ‘domestic violence’ thing.” I have NO idea what you mean by “shit happens” either. When it comes to domestic violence, saying “shit happens” is a pretty dismissive way of thinking about a very serious problem for women! Sure, the song could be about a guy who hurt his gf….but “hurt” in what way?
http://marginallyinsane.com Jenny Rain
Hi Maggie, this is the only video I’ve seen related to the song in question. If you know where the original/correct video is located, I’ll be happy to post it here. Thanks!
distantsun
Here from a Google search made in an attempt to understand this song– I just want to say thank you for posting this, because now I know I’m not the only one who was entirely weirded out and confused by the “scar/gave it to you” thing. I came to the conclusion that it’s all symbolic too (and I guess the “sunglasses” guy is pretending to be sensitive by asking her about her past emotional trauma, or something?) but… it’s still weird and creepy, kinda. :/
http://marginallyinsane.com Jenny Rain
Thanks for commenting! I don’t dislike the song, and actually I think it’s very catchy. It wasn’t until maybe the third time I heard the song that I actually considered how ambiguous the lyrics are and what they might mean. What’s creepy to me is that he’s talking about apologizing for a scar (whether literal or symbolic) that he gave her, but the conclusion seems to be “let’s just have fun and not think about consequences.” That’s what I can’t really get past.
Krys
This song reminds me of the TV show Skins (UK) and leaves me feeling the same way. Kind of disturbed. I heard it on a recent car commercial and looked it up on the web not making the Glee connection right away. The lyrics definitely bothered me too, especially in light of the “fun” portrayed in the car commercial. I think the domestic abuse in the background (of the lyrics, not the commercial) is being passed off as just part of growing up. Perhaps it’s my age speaking, but I wonder how the “message” of the song would change if we fast forward a couple decades and the background of abuse hasn’t changed.
Firemyst
I heard the scar lyrics, and I was hoping it was symbolic, but I’m not too perceptive when it comes to picking out the correct answers in poetry. It just seems to me that a guy with sunglasses in a bar hitting on a girl wouldn’t actually notice any emotional scars immediately. I highly doubt over thinking ambiguity is even possible, but personally the lyrics sound too carefree. Of course this is coming from a guy who’s never been drunk, call me cautious.
Bex
So glad you posted this. It bothered me too – in the same way Foster the People’s Pumped Up Kicks bothered me and many of Eminem’s songs bother me. It isn’t alright to glamorize such things.
But I’m still on the fence about Fun. I really want to like it and to see it symbolically, but its not coming as easy as it might to others.
Keep thinking too hard.
Juanvandam79
I think he hurt her awhile ago (probably cheated), but she forgave him but the pain still lingers…and he knows it. The rest of the song talks about a night they went out with all there friends, and they’re trying to put up a facade to not show the turmoil that’s goen on in their relationship. He knows he’s not her only option, and they start talking about “finding new ways to fall apart”…but then there friends come back (from getting higher than the empire state in the bathroom), so they change the subject and “raise a toast.” What eventually happens is they drown their sorrows for the night. And he knows that if by the end of the night she wants to give up on the relationship (so if by the time the time the bar closes and you feel like falling down), he wouldn’t blame her and support her decision because he still cares for her (I’ll carry you home tonight).
kryslo
I think that’s very obviously it. The song is almost literal. There’s no deep meaning that you really need to pull from it.
guest
ugh. i definitely also picked up on the domestic violence undertones, just as i was about to put this on a playlist. bummer, cuz i kind of liked the song. also, in terms of “thinking way too hard about this,” i think it’s hilarious how people are trying to dismiss your perception so doggedly that they themselves are also “thinking way too hard” about it and offering up more or less ridiculously over sentimental rationalizations of the lyrics. i wonder what’s at stake for them in defending a pop song. bummer too that janelle sings on it. anyway. keep on keeping on!
guest
also, omg. the video. come on. deffff about abuse. i feel like the video is at least somewhat more responsible than the lyrics, in that, at least in the visual complement to the song, the focus is on how she’s feeling about it after the fact.
Derrekwilhelmi
Dude sounds like a creep to me in this song. Gave it to her months ago and just waiting for her get drunk tooooonight so he can get his make up lay. Seat taken sunglasses at the bar is prob just some ass from jersey shore holding his seat and Willl try to fight anyone that takes it creeper ass will get scars
Ouconner98
This guy is talking Bout how he made a mistake with his gf by cheating on her and he is asking her if there is any way she could forgive him, so he decides on just letting go for one night and be young and reckless and just have fun with her (not sexual fun). It is not about rape or beating someone. In the end he is basically like,”we’re cool now” and he will always have her back and he knows what he did wrong. He will “carry her home…tonight” basically means he will stay with her tonight and be a loyal friend/bf.
It is very important to be analytical about the lyrics of any song. Most people can just groove with the sound and tempo, but for more people to maximize the enjoyment of a song it is necessary to dissect in order to unlock it’s full potential. Case in point the song “Pumped Up Kicks” by Foster The People. Everyone should realize the necessity to be objective which is the entire point behind blogs as the OP has stated.
As for the symbolism and meaning behind the song, I think Ouconner98 has come really close. Thanks for your insight.
http://marginallyinsane.com Jenny Rain
That’s a very optimistic way to look at it, and I’d like to believe that. I think this would all be solved if we simply knew what “it” is–”I know I gave it to you months ago, I know you’re trying to forget.” I’m bothered in a way I shouldn’t be. I’ll admit I like your version of events better though.
Robert Swirsky
It’s “asking about a CIGAR” not “asking about a scar”.
Shelster1998
its about death because in the song it says carry me home tonight… and tonight we are young so we can burn brighter than the sun.
http://www.facebook.com/paleblueeyes24 Veronica John
To me it seems like they were in a relationship a month ago and he cheated on her with his new lover and caused them to break-up. Now he see’s her at the bar that he, his friends, and lover are at as well. She is with another guy and they are talking about past relationships just like most people do when they are getting to know someone new. Her scar is in reference to the scar on her broken heart from when he cheated on her. He fells very bad about what happened because he hurt her and he still wants to be in a relationship with her. That’s why he wants to “take it back” so they can start over and be together again. He wants to get his story straight so he can talk to her the truth and explain it all to her because there are many things he still hasn’t told her (the holes in the story). The ending saying if she wants to fall down he’ll carry her home. I think that is about her going against her relationship rules and taking him back. Most people have a rule that if the significant other cheats it’s over. So falling down as in morally falling down and allowing him to come back in her life. That’s my opinion.
http://www.facebook.com/paleblueeyes24 Veronica John
wrong person sorry
http://www.facebook.com/paleblueeyes24 Veronica John
I think the “it” is a broken heart.
http://www.facebook.com/paleblueeyes24 Veronica John
Eminem has sad the reason some of his songs sound violent is because he uses music as an outlet. If he gets his feelings out in his writing then he wont do anything like that in his personal life. Atleast that is what I heard a few years back.
http://www.facebook.com/paleblueeyes24 Veronica John
Have you ever broke someone’s heart but still loved them and wanted to keep the relationship or vice versus?
http://www.facebook.com/paleblueeyes24 Veronica John
Wow. I have to agree with Jenny. I can’t believe what you said about domestic violence. Do you know how many people are killed everyday from domestic violence? Is she being way to emotional about the rape thing too? I doubt you’re a woman based on your comments but what about your mother, sister, or daughter. How would you feel is they were beat so bad they were in a coma or dead?? I had an Aunt that was beat so badily that she couldn’t make it out of her house that her husband set on fire after he beat her almost to death. The fire finished her off. Unbelievable!!!
Woahxitsxcarole
This might be a bit dated, but the first thing I thought of was AIDS. He “gave it” to her months ago. He apologizes, & she tries to forget. His friends are in the bathroom getting high (perhaps how he got the disease?) & perhaps she didnt/doesn’t condone his drug abuse.
The sunglasses are just a guy trying to figure out why she has such a chip on her shoulder
Then the guy is saying that he can’t really apologize for his acctions because he doesn’t really mind how he’s been living.
So he says “let’s set the world on fire” because we only have so long left.
Derekf2005
Pop music lyrics are meant to be ambiguous, that way more people relate to them….
Derekf2005
The ‘it” is the scar from the previous line
Budaga5
Here are my two bits: I think the sunglasses reference is to a cop who’s come to question him about a date rape; he’s sorry, but IF she were to become so inebriated (via his date-rape drug) again, he’s still more than happy to set the night ‘on fy-uh’ as he did when he stole her innocence the last time. It’s definitely a catchy song, but I think it’s disturbing nonetheless.
I get that you’re focusing on the lyrics and what they mean… but no one has bothered to discuss the actual chorus and what that means in relation to the song. The chorus doesn’t scream to me abuse or domestic violence. I truly think he hurt her a while ago (emotionally) and the scar is symbolic. The whole song is symbolic. “Let’s set the world on fire.” “We can burn brighter than the sun.” “My seats been taken by some sunglasses.” These are obviously symbols, I think the scar is too. Also the second set of lyrics don’t suggest that there is more abuse.
guest
I am a little confused by the lyrics, but I seem to be coming at it from a completely different angle. Having not seen the official video and just trying to understand the context of the words, I thought he was singing to a male friend. I presumed he was talking about some major falling out/fight they’d had leaving a physical scar. I think the having to get his story straight part is to do with his friends in the bathroom taking his side against the other guy. He is worried that they will come out of the bathroom and see him talking to the guy trying to apologise and be annoyed that he’s talking to a mutual enemy. Finally, his way of apologising is to say ‘come on, lets have a drink together and make friends’, he will be there to carry the other guy home.
I just don’t buy the idea of it being about domestic violence, it seems too much of a happy/anthem type of song.
sarcasm?
I think it’s an incredibly catchy song and I love it. But I got the exact same impression as you, Jenny, when I really listened to the lyrics for the first time and watched the music video, but I thought that it was more cynical than anything else. There are all these pop songs out about being young and not giving a sh!t and just “living life” without responsibilities, and I think that this song is poking fun at that idea a little bit. I’m sure that this song is not autobiographical; just like eminem, the author is creating a fictional character (something that makes songwriting way easier). Also, the music video you posted is not the official one, the real one is of the band playing at a bar and a huge fight breaking out. Anyways, between the lyrics, the bar-fight video, and even the cover artwork for the song (a hungover/depressed looking girl gazing solemnly at the floor), I really get the impression that the song is satirizing this binge drinking culture that me and most kids my age partake in WHICH I find hugely ironic since everyone loves to belt out this song when they are wasted as sh!t at parties trying to find someone to carry them home and bone….lol….I mean come on even the band’s name, Fun.? with a period? There’s some sarcasm going on that nobody seems to be picking up on, OR I’m just completely clueless.
Allory Bors
I think the scar is emotional, because he says “I’m trying hard to take it back,” and you really can’t “take back” a physical scar.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Elyse-Grant/843229910 Elyse Grant
Thats the wrong music video.
guest
no its not its asking ’bout a scar
Differdaze
OMG…. your interpretation is hysterical!!!… I absolutely loved it!! Jennifer
Ejm1975
I agree that this song is lyrically very disturbing, much like Foster the People’s Pumped Up Kicks. Musically I love both songs; lyrically I despise them. Even if the lyrics of We are Young are not referencing rape, they are most definitely referencing drug use–in a bathroom. Like Pumped Up Kicks, this song contributes to the ongoing degradation of culture by sending out some very dark messages masked behind an extremely catchy facade. The narrator of this song seems regretful about whatever he did, but that doesn’t change the fact that he did it. To me this song is about domestic violence, but it could also be about rape.
Simonauby
I’m seriously bothered that everyone thinks that the “pair of sunglasses” is in reference to the man covering up his bloodshot eyes from being high or from some other man, period. I always had the impression that it’s the ex-girlfriend waiting for him to come back to his seat, kind of like in those melodramatic movies where a woman is wearing sunglasses to hide the “scars” behind her eyes. And something I just realized is that the whole first verse could be in reference to him being paranoid (not only ’cause he’s high) because he needs to find a way to explain why he is conversing with his ex. There’s just a huge mess of conflicted situations all going on at once and he needs to recollect himself by having a few more drinks and settling things with his past love.
Simon
Ah. Nevermind! Reread the lyrics. Haha. Can’t delete my comment, now I look like a dumbass for under looking the lyrics. Anyways, I now think the sunglassed man is in reference to the second verse and how the boyfriend stresses that she has other men to fall back on because other men are trying to pick her up at the bar. I guess the new man can see that she suffers in her relationship, and assuming that she’s dealing with a break up, the new man hopes to comfort her.
Veeonagirl21
Did anyone notice the blood?
Joy Hockensmith
“sunglasses” I interpreted as a cop
weareyoung4eva
I think its about him like abusing her beacuse he says “asking about a scar” “i know i gave it to u months ago (scar?)”
http://twitter.com/kcunning Katie Cunningham
Yes! I’m not alone in being completely creeped out by this song!
The first few times I heard it, I heard it starting at the middle, and liked it well enough. Then, after a week or so, I finally heard the opening, and I went code.
“Scar? He gave her a scar? That someone else can see, so it’s not, like, an emotional scar? What the ever loving–”
I kept waiting for someone in the media to say, hey, wait, maybe we shouldn’t be playing a song about a guy who beats up his girlfriend! But no… it’s drifted to the freaking family rock stations!
Lisa
Thanks for posting this! This is a very important discussion. I am troubled by this (catchy and likable) song, and I’m also troubled by others dismissing your interpretation as “thinking too hard about it” or “reading way into it.” Meanings exist in people.
Liz
I know that this is a rather old post, but I’d still like to give my two cents on this topic. The thing about interpreting poetry or lyrics is that we cannot take certain words or phrases out of context and then attempt to dissect them in a vacuum. There is a need to respect the connections between one line and another.
Here’s my interpretation of the song:
The persona is asking for a few moments to come up with a coherent explanation that can cover the asses of both him and his pot-smoking friends, in the event that he is approached by the authorities. As he tries to collect his thoughts, he becomes aware that his girlfriend is waiting for him across the bar, and his seat next to her has been taken by some hot shot wearing a pair of sunglasses. Said hot shot is trying to start a conversation with the persona’s girlfriend by asking the latter about a scar she has, which is revealed to have been given to her by the persona. Given that it is actually visible, we can infer that the persona did, indeed, hit his girlfriend, and the song does, indeed, deal with domestic abuse.
Now he is acknowledging that his girlfriend is trying hard to forget that he hit her, and although he is sincere in his attempts to take back what he has done, he knows that his apologies are filled with gaps, because it is impossible to rationalize hitting your partner.
As a final effort to make things up to her, he is promising that he will take care of her and take her home, if she becomes too drunk to do so, herself. Here it becomes a little iffy, because yes, “home” may refer to his, not hers, and he does have the intention to have sex with her, thus recementing their relationship and therefore keeping her as his girlfriend despite having hit her and making her uncomfortable about continuing being with him.
Does it make sense? I hope it does.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000693416489 Larry Rach
How are you looking at a YouTube video and judging a song. the official music video for “We Are Young” is a slow motion bar fight not a girl peeling an apple and shaking her head.
I did listen to the words of the song and there are usually more than one way to preserve what the artist is trying to say. To me I think he is asking her to forgive him for hurting her (emotional or physical we don’t know). He is poring his heart out in a song. People desirve a second chance. That is what he is asking for.
Mdluder53
I will give this a try. I think the story he is coming up with is what to tell his girlfriend or ex what he is doing there.” My seat ” may simply mean the place he would normally be sitting when they came to this place together. Not that they came there together that night. They more than likely had a big fight months before that caused a scar. We don’t know if he struck her literally or if he was being an idiot and threw something that accidentally injured her. Then we have him offering new ways to fall apart. This would say to me that they often break up over different reasons and get back together. He’s basically asking for another chance. But then his friends return so he acts as though he is fine and having them and not her is ok ” I found someone to carry me home.” the world is On my side. I have no reason to run.” and then talk about angels. There’s a point where you drink so much you feel like u might Durand I think hes then saying if she feels as bad as he does and drinks as much he still loves her and will be there to carry her home
Mdluder53
That should say *drink so much you feel like you could die. So “the angels never arrived but I could hear the choir” would make sense in that context